and i hope that as chairman cummings said, it helps in order to heal america. and i think you all again. have a good day. >> reporter: when you talk about retribution, worried -- >> jesse: only one thing to say. >> dana: i just want to add -- >> juan: i want to finish up. >> dana: i want to add something to the point, you are talking about the payments. whether it's a campaign finance violation or personal expenditure. that is something that's at issue. that's the crux of it. if you are a tote fan, what you might like about what cohen said is he showed there is no pattern of it happening. it's a one-time thing. he didn't want to embarrass melania. i think the fact that he did that -- >> jesse: with women. he said that with women. he said there were other times he made payments going back to 2007. paying things to go away. >> dana: is not a payment