nuclear and missile arsenal. north korea has rejected that claim. so what we need to see his get this in writing. we need to have a common definition on what denuclearization is. if not global arms control. it's denuclearization of north korea. we need to get north korean commitment to international standards of verification. we need to get them to commit to fully abandoning their arsenal and their production capabilities as well as very early on getting a data declaration of the programs. that's all i think very tangible steps that we need to get very early on. >> shannon: any chance we get any of that? >> well, if we don't have that, then we don't have an agreement. >> shannon: so we have to have some peace for the schedule forward. fred, your policy calls for the president here this week? >> i would like to see at a minimum an agreement for an expection of north korea's nuclear site antimissile production facility. i think we are close to getting that agreement. if we could get inspections of the main nuclear site, that would be tremendous. there should be a road map of