he is the type of witness you have a lot of trouble putting on the witness stand. there are a bunch of silk stocking lawyers out there that would love to get in line to cross examine him, i'm sure. >> heather: what is being alleged is that this would be impeachable offenses in terms of the president and his knowledge of the payments to stormy daniels, amongst others? >> i think they have coached it in this plea deal in terms of a campaign, an elicit campaign contribution. he has other issues but those don't really involve the president. what the anti-trump side will try to do is sort of like a john edwards type prosecution, pay off someone to stay silent. that's a campaign contribution of some sort or some kind. >> heather: you and i talked about that case when that was happening. >> we sure did, back in north carolina in the day. it didn't pass then. it couldn't convince the jury. these are the type of cases a