meetings that have come out think that he's talking about, all of these contacts. we have yet to see anything coming close to that initialif plan. >> tucker: it just seems like if you are ralph peters or some kind of hysterical person on tv making claims, that's fine. but if you're the deputyhe director of the fbi or just have been and you commanded massive domestic army that's heavily armed like a crush and kill people then you have an obligation not to be reckless in the things you say on cable news. >> right. this was the first few months into the administration. i think the fbi really was freaking out. it's less understandable to me and i think it's completely baffling is rod rosenstein. because he, according to mugabe, rosenstein was frantically meeting with him and other senior leaders of the fbi proposing may be the invocation of the 25th amendment, wearing a wire, doing all this andd ultimately leading to the appointment of robert mueller as a special counsel. but it was rod rosenstein who