politician to stand up and say, you know, not hating anybody else, but my first job is to protect our citizens. >> yeah. >> tucker: why don't you have a national politician who will say that? >> well, occasionally one does say that. then they get abused, as you say berated for being called extreme, things i've been called over the years. there is a consensus among the british politicians that you don't tackle these issues, it's too awkward. and of course, remember we have a growing muslim minority. within the united kingdom. the fear is if we say these things we'll alienate that community and they won't vote for us in the future. cynically, tucker, that i think is at the top of the list. >> tucker: well, i mean it's hard -- maybe the majority of british muslims support isis. i doubt it. i'm sure a lot of reasonable people, who see this kind of behavior as discrediting to them and wrong. i hope so.