kind. is that the message we are sending? >> we are confusing getting rid of requirements by celibacy, change teaching of all the acts being wrong. not a reaffirmation that the actual i think we need that reaffirmation if we are going to redress this. >> as matty mentioned, when you got a monsignor who had the scandalous pass in your gray, he runs the house that the vatican's house that he lives in. we when you have a person who is a predator straight or gay, and they need to be out. >> martha: i think people do not need to talk about the issue of priests who are actively having leadership. whether it's heterosexual or homosexual. >> it's a crisis of fidelity and