forensic. president trump: we'll deny a national emergency and we'll be sued, it will go to the 9th sir curtr -- the 9th circuit. then we'll go to the supreme court. howie: joining us. ben domenech and beverly hallberg and philippe reines. the media is covering this as a shock abuse of power that shatters constitutional norms. ben: we have a number of national emergencies going on for different reasons. president obama found funding for the obama care exchanges. the fact is we do have a national emergency at the