observed, meaning that the opposite is true. he said let's get back to it. you don't want to talk about something uncomfortable like klan hoda, you want to get something that is comfortable, like infanticide. it is very i'm comfortable to talk about blackface on the yearbook page. everyone is against it. no one is defending it. it never occurred to me to defend it. why would you? it's awful. so it's not even a conversation. it's like group affirmation that we all think it's bad. were not even talking about that, are we? >> well, in a sense, it is a kind of menstrual show. and it shows where it is kind of putting on a show about being concerned about black people. for example, abortion. black women account for -- i think it's somewhere between the 35-40% of all abortions. in new york city, more black babies are aborted then born.