saying healthcare access for all. in relation what it means it outlaws private insurance. maybe you are thinking mae my plan could be better i don't love it also outlaw all of the things that come along with private insurance that consumers generally like like an hsa or fsa. those accounts that allow to you save your own tax dollars in order to spend them on healthcare. those become prohibited under medicare for all. medicare is the first and only provider for healthcare insurance. also talking about insurance. kamala harris talk a lot about how this provides access to care to everyone. provides access to insurance not necessarily to care. that's a big discrepancy as well. ainsley: yeah. you are right. if you like your plan you can't necessarily keep it under this plan. >> that's right. ainsley: how about the cost? how are we going to pay for it $32.6 trillion over the next 10 years. >> this is another detail that proponents of medicare for all how they are going pay for the proposal. $32 trillion is a consensus position from liberal and conservative analyses that show this is going to be a massive undertaking for the