a terribly dramatic way that's damaging to united states and the rest of the world. they do not play by the rules. they enforce technology transfers, steal our intellectual property. this is something that the president is right to take on. china is among our greatest competitors -- maria: okay. so you, you wouldn't accept a deal that only includes more stuff being bought by china then. >> yes. think that would be a mistake -- i think that would be a mistake in the sense that we would have gone through a lot of pain and not really resolved the overall issue. but i do make the case to the president and his administration, secretary per due, secretary ross, ambassador lighthizer, with that photo. what that photo shows is grain piled to the ground. what we normally store grain in is an elevator. it isn't piled on the ground in kansas -- maria: right. >> but because the supplies are so great, there's no place to store grain. we need those markets -- maria: understood. >> kansas is an export state, but we need to have the victory.