>> juan: isn't a family -- the kids aren't providing. you are taking care of your children. >> katie: your children are little socialists. that's why we take half of their allowance. this is why you take the allowance. you pay them for the chores and you take half a bit away and say it's going to the government. >> juan: part of this is a response to gregory. i think we have things like child labor laws. you can't exploit children. >> greg: kids love to work. >> jesse: 100 years ago. >> juan: that's the rules. we have rules about things like you can't pollute the air. why is that? >> greg: do you agree that all people should work more? i think it's wrong to have retirement at 60 -- what is that? 65. we should kick it up to 75 or 80. >> jesse: juan just hit 65. >> dana: katie hasn't had a chance to talk.