michigan because we live-- when i was a kid, i didn't understand canada was another country. i went to canada every day and didn't understand immigration. we understand-- i shouldn't say that, but that's the truth. >> and may be dating yourself a little here. >> you got in the boat and went across the river and it's still a problem. i mean, there were, you know, we've got a human trafficking problem that's very serious. leland: now you've got to carry your passport if you run the detroit marathon. >> it doesn't used to be that way, but i've dug in because that's what i'm supposed to do. i'm going to leave it to the coniferee, lucille ellard is one of the top experts, younger members on it, but we've got to know what we're doing, that's what a legislature does, study the issue. leland: you have a lot of confidence in them. we'll see what the deal is. we always appreciate you being here especially on a saturday. >> thank you. leland: kristin. kristin: look at this, a large cruise ship on the loose on the hudson river. what caused this and other boats to just float away?