of time on his plate to show up at daca rallies in dc last february. we invited him on the show tonight but he's too afraid to appear. joining me is bishop aubrey shine who was watching our show last night. bishop, your reaction to these two men of the cloth? i'm appalled. first of all it's always great being with you, laura. when i heard bishop last night. let me say to start out the church of god and christ is a fantastic organization, i was once parted of that organization where bishop swan came from. i can assure you doesn't represent those values, that's where dr. martin luther king had his last speech, at the mason temple in the church of god and christ. when i hear bishop swan not address the real issues and that is the bar bare rick margaret sanger who gave us planned