a number of the public sector credit unions. those have announced very low interest rate loans to bridge people over the gap. >> tucker: so more debt? more interest payments? that is the solution? no, it is not. those are the last things that most americans need. that was an idiotic thing to say. look for wilbur ross's words to be aired every day for the next three years on cnn. they know a propaganda win when they see one. it is a shame and it is also a distraction because it doesn't change the nature, the fundamental nature of this crisis. our borders remain b vulnerable, and the stakes are higher than they've ever been thanks to thet chaos just south of them. leaders who cared about this country would be staying up late trying to fix that problem.. democratic leaders are trying to make it worse. that is the bottom line truth. enrique acevedo is an anchor with univision and he joins us tonight. thank you for joining us.