you know f. hi laura, thank you for having me. it was interesting to see how the native american perspective was of course embraced, but it was seemingly impossible to seem to have a conservative viewpoint on this issue. especially with the idea of covering up or nick erasing history. an important part of learning where we need to go in the future. we need to acknowledge the evil things that may have happened, no matter how unfortunate. >> laura: pretty much all of history includes really scary and bad and evil things. and yet they're not wrong. >> laura: jonathan, same thing happened at dartmouth college, the hovey grill murals, it was kind of a bit of a charactaricaf a song about dartmouth. there was a huge fight over the murals.