what your thoughts are on your cousins. martin luther ki martin luther king jr.'s son had said about the immigration program a mistake. my father was a bridge builder, not a wall builder. that was coming from your cousin, martin luther king iii. what did you think of it? >> with my experience and i'm 68 years old and i have seen quite a bit, lived in two centuries, a youth organizer during the lifetime of my uncle and his dad, reverend a.d. king, so i'm accustomed to people taking the words of martin luther king jr. and fit them what they believe. people do the bible the same way. i don't believe that vice president pence was doing anything harmful. i believe his regard for martin luther king jr. is 365 days, not just a political ploy in my opinion. but then there again, i know the