an escape. as a fan and as a player. i think there are a lot of things going on in society that need attention. i always felt that the world of football was somewhat safe from that, but we found out it's not. neil: let me ask you about the dust-up over the national anthem, whether you should stand or kneel or what do you think? . right, it used to be a sporting event. we want to see who wins and loses. we don't want to see who is standing and who is kneeling. i mean, everybody been standing for a long time and now there's controversy you've got people who want to kneel. it shouldn't be about who wants to stand and who wants to kneel, it should be about the sport and not a big political thing. this is america and outside of the workplace we should continue to protest what we don't think is right. neil: who was the last guy? >> i think his name is joe namath and did something in 1969 with the new york jets.