back to work or if you're going back to work. or listening to my colleagues and my co-workers not being able to pay their mortgages, not being able to pay their rent, worried about food, worried about their bills. we're all suffering. it's just very heart breaking what american citizens are having to go through because of politics. >> shepard: what do you tell your children? >> i've had to tell my children that mommy is not getting paid. we are in a situation where things have changed. my son wanted to be in his basketball camp. he asked me just yesterday, mom, so can i still play basketball? i told him no. i'm sorry. we don't have the money right now. right now we have to focus on the necessities and he was very -- he was okay with it. my children have been very supportive. but it's a life-changing event right now. >> shepard: brenner, there's no