begin with you. we are hearing rumors the white house is preparing for ruth bader ginsburg to step down from her role and she -- she's had health issues and missed a lot of this week because of those health issues. what do you predict will happen if this open seat gets put into the mix politically? >> well, it will be a kavanaugh like firefight but the thing i absolutely predict that a lot of constitutional scholars agree with me is that justice roberts appointed by george w. bush will continue to go to the center and be a moderate force on that court. you'll have to ask him but that's where he's going. jesse: i agree that it katrina? >> yeah, i have to agree. i do think that is what will happen but it's also an amazing opportunity to appoint another "justice. definitely, they will take fiercely the nature of the values of the country from the