want a deal. >> i don't think speaker pelosi wants a resolution to this. she's much too intelligent and talented, and has been in too many negotiations to be behaving the way that she's behaving. >> lawmakers note it's about to get very real when some 800,000 federal workers do not receive paychecks tomorrow, that is certain to turn up the pressure here. we'll see if it gets a result. >> dana: mike emanuel, thank you. for more on this, perry baker editor at large for the "wall street journal" and a new show we'll tell you about, we want to talk about that. your experience in watching these types of negotiations over the years, this a stalemate, still, or can you see some cracks in any of the coalitions? >> well, dana, right now the challenge i think is both sides think they're willing, neither side think it's losing. as long as that's going on there isn't a great incentive for either to come to the table and do a deal o top of which, you have a government shutdown, 800,000 federal workers furloughed, but people aren't