unfortunately if he really wanted the wall, should have been part of a infrastructure bill at the beginning of the administration. he's getting to the promise of the political base late. you'll have to have the government open again. we can't be in this situation forever. so this is a short term problem. we have long-term challenges to deal with, too. >> heather: we've been shut down now since december 22. >> 11 days. >> heather: we'll see how long it continues. you two will be back a little later in the show to talk more about other issues. stick around. thank you very much. >> ahead, the family of an american arrested in russia says he's not a spy and they're concerned for his safety. how will the u.s. respond? that's next.