rather welcome. mattis could do it all. the mattis/shanahan team was stronger. >> leland: is there anybody else at the pentagon who is perhaps not as well-known of a name but fills the mattis role you're saying is now gone in terms of institutional knowledge of the military in terms of knowledge of history, in terms of policy versus important curement of a technology? i'm a fan of general joe dunford in office for nine more months, extremely good himself and john rude, a well recognized name. he does broader foreign policy aspects. and the thing is they'll be very good in their own lanes. they won't have the larger than life presence or influence with the president that i think mattis had, at least for the first year and a half or so of