manual labor and hedging and shoveling and planting and moag and working with my hand and getting dirty and sweaty. i had it it at the time, but it made me become a hard working person. that i believe has been lost in today's america. are we ever going to get that back? >> yes, we will. because we have to. if we don't. then the consequences will be so dire that i can't even imagine what it will look like. you are talking about the kind of jobs that typically get presented as character building. obviously you are a man who is not afraid to get his hand dirty. but the real issue in my view is not -- it's actually an appreciation. it's one thing to affirmatively discourage our kids from learning a useful skill.