this issue. his base is with him on this. in the short run, i don't see him feeling a lot of pain on this one. if this goes on and on, then perhaps you will see some negative response to trump on this issue. not right now. it has been going on not long enough. for yourself or away from 2020. i don't think it will have an impact on that either. do we get a deal? >> we will not get a deal until the new congress is in place and even then we are going to have a debate for a little. at some point there are no winners in this spirit they are only losers. it has a question of who looks less bad. >> i think there is room for a win here, democrats can bring back talk talk about resolving that issue without having to do corporation settle everything. you can get border security, a great time for people to get a little bit of what they want on both sides. >> bret: we shall see.