needle and try to make his points and, quite frankly, educate president trump on some of these issues and so the departure of him is something that is, i think, going down in the history books. >> tammy: well, christian whiton is a former state department senior advisor to trump and george w. bush administrations. he joins us now. christian, i really don't recall woodward saying that when barack obama fired mattis that that was a tragedy. did i miss that part? >> [laughs] the pearl clutching really has gotten out of control. mattis did what he was supposed to do, kill isis, that was the urgent crisis, that is what president trump promised to do. that is what he did. he helped unlock the promise of our forces and helped w get the lawyers out of the way and let our soldiers do their job. but mattis was opposed to trump on most other things.. he wanted to stay in the paris climate boondoggle.