lisa: remember, secretary nielsen said 500 criminals among the caravan. i saw a stat amnesty international 80% women experienced rape. a lot of women take birth control before going on trips. that's the situations they will face. clearly very dangerous journey. griff: i had a migrant tell me specifically on camera. i have to look to see if i can find it, this has become a mess down there, is he going to wait until a time on the border might be a little more lax. he said christmas eve and new year's eve while the border is shut down. when all of this is going on by the way my colleagues in the media. lisa: they are going nuts. griff: they say this administration is in chaos. this is democrats and the media talking about this administration. >> let me just say, this the president, he is unraveled. things are unraveling. >> donna. >> this is more than a wall. >> is he not behaving like is he fit for office. >> we may look back on the mattis resignation as the beginning of the functional