it is. >> dana, let's not talk about how it's boring. it's a hot issue in public opinion. quinnipiac has a poll outcome up if the 4%, no need to a wall 64% avoid a shutdown. 54% say yes to the wall among republicans. >> i would imagine that 60% of democrats say -- >> it's more than that. >> it's the same. it's quite partisan. i thought the language that ted cruz used earlier today was interesting but i think you'll hear more of it coming from republicans that the democrats are extreme and they are partisan, the president is the one who who is middle-of-the-rn this and commonsensical. some of them pointing back to february when the president had the cameras in and that was in the cabinet room and it was the most amazing meeting anybody sees? that deal with the given $25 billion plus the d aca fix. you go back, gosh, maybe that's the deal they should've had back