office building where the president will be signing the farm bill soon. but as to what happens from here, we do not know. again, a wall can take on many different forms. the president has started to talk about steel slats, the word "wall" connotes a big concrete structure that the democrats say they would never agree to. so we'll see if moderating the language a little bit moderates sentiments on capitol hill. i doubt it. >> shepard: i said earlier, wondering, are they trying to come up with some semantics dance where he can get money for border security, which democrats have to a man and a woman said they want border security but not have to build the wall, that it doesn't like he has support for even within his own party? >> it would appear he's moving in that direction. i hear it on twitter that steel slat equates to fence, does not