into the room. people like tradition, particular during christmas. it's a little bit -- as long as were talking about mary poppins. imagine if lin-manuel miranda was cast as manny poppins. i promise you there would be a female revoltin and there should be. leave santa alone. there is historical precedent. he was a bishop. sinterklaas is the embodiment ol st. nicholas. that became santa claus. we can't change it. it ruins the whole deal. >> laura: there is a nativity scene? woodland, washington. >> these officials have evicted jesus from the public park. this nativity has been a place for 40 years. this year, a handful of people complained that it violates the separation of church and state. people likend marc mcvey. >> i wrote the mayor and the city manager and said i'm not quite sure if this is in keeping with what the law allows. >> i'm not antireligious. i think it's great.