puts border security in the public sphere according to democrats -- whether you are against a wall or whatever, the american people believe in sovereignty and some kind of border security and they know there has to be some kind of fix when it comes to securing the southern border and calling it a slush fund makes it not seem like a serious prospect. >> bret: nancy pelosi having this issue on the first part of taking over the gavel as house speaker a positive thing for democrats or a negative? >> the opposition to a wall funding will be even stronger than it was with the current class of democrats. it helps her and the public is divided over this it doesn't matter which words you use, the one thing you are going to hear is everybody talk about how much they support border security. if you are a conservative or pro-wall, the more you hear people talk about electronic measures and surveillance the more you view it as a dodge to