transcribed. but that is, in fact, an argument for his innocence. of course he knew that the f.b.i. was be able to check everything he said against information they themselves had gathered. knowing that, why would he lie? maybe because he didn't know he was lying. the downfall seems to be engineered from day one. the feds chose the man and picked a crime to pin on him. >> then moore decided to go -- mueller decided to go back and charge him. it became a can hunt. they put him in a cage and shot him. >> tucker: put him in a cage and shot him. because there is still no evidence of russian collusion doesn't mean we haven't become more like russia. former u.s. attorney for the district of columbia is joining us now. joe, i want to state at the outset, he lied! say news anchors. he lied. he deserves whatever is coming to him. assess that claim. if you would.