and not those appearing in court as victims or witnesses." isn't it the case where this is being thrown out in a very emotional manner to try to paint the trump administration as you are going after like victims of domestic violence in a y courthouse. that's really not the case. >> it may not be that they are specifically targeting the victims, but the impact is the same. the effect is the same. they are going after illegal immigrants in the court systems and the actual witnesses, victims, they think they are, even if that's not what's happening. >> laura: there is an updated policy that came out. there is also something called, i can't't remember the name of a visa. it's a visa for a victim of crime. you can apply for it if you are a victim. if these courthouses, these judges or these lawyers for the illegal immigrants aren't aware of this.