of his cases that relates to the government having to provide what is called brady material. mitigating information. it seems to me as we get late in the game for flynn's sentencing that judge sullivan is taking an activist approach. wants to make sure the defense can raise everything they can raise about how flynn might have been treated differently than others similarly situated defendants. i don't predict explosions at a sentencing with the issue how much jail time he gets, but judge sullivan is the wrong draw if he's got concerns or if he has concerns about the government's conduct. he might. there's a lot of smoking guns here in terms of the fbi treating flynn a little differently. so could be a sensational hearing if the judge is on the wrong side that morning. >> neil: up to that point, the president was having an exchange with the governors at the white house saying when asked about these issues, particularly the