out of the monies that were available for the department of home land security. >> congressman you mentioned about the number of illegals who have melted tkhru the wall so to speak. snuck through the fencing that is already there. that would seem to indicate whatever we build we replace the fencing there now. that makes me think that's more than $5 billion. right. >> $5 billion is the down payment on the 25 billion-dollar figure the president has identified he will need in order to provide the operational security. >> this is the first time, sorry i wasn't clear -- that we talked about replacing walls or parts of walls and fences up now that are not adequate. we recently discovered with the caravan they may not be adequate. >> correct. that's why the money put forward for the defense act that's not satisfactory or creating the type of security that this