always a lot of speculation, a lot of back and forth, a lot of indecisions, it's hard to point to one thing that's final nail in the coif i-- coffin the prest did announce that he is going to retire. arthel: caitlin, how would this reflect on general kelly's reputation? >> right, i think axios has reported that trump is just tired of kelly, tired of the control, he wants someone new and part of the thinking was nick ayers, he's leading contender ff chief of staff job, he can bring more political savvyiness, in terms of general kelly, reputation since the hour of the news broken, we see people praising service, military and public service in