it, gregg jarrett, has to do with trump, russia and collusion. it seems that the media is only fixated on one thing. that is michael cohen's payment as relates to stormy and karen mcdougal and somehow we have a campaign financial violation. i have a list of them from obama and other people that committed them, too. >> and they're civil penalties. they're not criminal cases. why? to prove a criminal case of campaign violation, you have to prove the candidate knowingly violated the campaign election laws and prosecutors rarely are able to prove that because most people in america, candidates especially, don't understand the incredibly complex laws. two things that we learned today. one, in all three of them, there's no reference to trump-russia collusion to win the election. the other thing that we learned is people like manafort are refusing to tell bob mueller