investigation, when a prosecutor roles of the little guys to get at the big guys, the difference is, you roll up the little guys on the thing that you want the big guy to be nailed on. and what's happened here is, since collusion is not a crime, and they don't have a conspiracy between russia and the campaign, the only cases they have been able to make our process crimes that are generated by the investigation. >> shannon: jeffrey anton, i want to get you both to weigh in on the news of the president is considering bill barr to be the attorney general. he's been the attorney general before. "the washington post" quotes them, and 2017, asked by "the post" about political donations asked by made by lawyers in the special counsel team, he said that prosecutors who make political donations are identifying strongly, and said "i would've liked to have seen mueller have more balance on this group." jeffrey, then tom. >> i saw that quote. i think it is agree with it. if you look at the prosecutors that are on mueller's team, they