it was a pretty forbidden time. >> and there were further interesting times for the bush children. >> when your dad became president, i mean, it was a huge thrill. it was not a surprise, really, i mean, it is not as if he was not qualified to be president. i don't know, it kind of fit. but for us, it was just the same. >> i will say it was not all that fun that much of the time. because the intensity is just ratcheted up. all of us were very protective of our dad. there was a newsweek article, i thought to myself, the wimp factor. and i thought this is odd. this perception that he -- he went to washington, here is guy who literally watched his daughter die which takes a lot of courage to keep a family together after that. here is a guy who by virtue of