you know who they are? no, i don't know. but just look at the films. look at them and you will find who are they? griff: when he says films. part of what is he talking about that situation on sunday when they rushed the border. he worries and hopes that doesn't happen again as these people become more desperate. he said that six hour shut down on sunday cost the tijuana people over $6 million. meanwhile there is a hunger strike of sorts for a small handful of folks. that seems to be relatively shut down at this point, guys. brian: griff, you have more of that interview a little bit later, right? griff: yeah. we talked about a whole lot and who he blames and what he says is the real challenge and that is the fact that when he looks for the bad actors in it, the criminals, it's the humanitarian folks here that will not allow them to ask them who they are. ed: whole story down there. remember the veteran whose