point, it would not be perjury. perjury has to be relevant to the case at hand and intentional. a lot of people are saying it's a perjury trap, there is no perjury trap. you intentionally lied about something that is relevant. >> tucker: if i got a hold of your phone and your laptop, and i say come i have every communication that you sent and received two years ago, and i will ask you questions about an email that you forwarded two years ago -- you are 72 years old -- and you don't remember -- >> the president is 74? we shouldn't be worried about the memories of 72 euros -- >> tucker: i'm not attacking older people. i can't remember what emails i forwarded two years ago. is not a felony if i can't remember. if you suddenly charge a man with a felony because he can't or member forwarding an email, i don't offers a perjury trap are not but it's totally immoral. the point of this is protecting america from a foreign power. >> i'm an attorney, okay? if you forget about an email, that is not perjury. if you intentionally lie about a