world dominated economies and others. right now we are seeing this really tragic situation on the border and the thing is, i defend in the piece, america's writer of borders in a sovereign nation but trump was supposed to be the america first guy in the truth is that a lot of times with american foreign policy, america is not respecting the sovereignty of other nations, whether it's through military intervention in the middle east for economic intervention in latin america and we are seeing the consequences of that now but it's just a very shallow debate. >> tucker: i can't believe i'm agreeing with you but i am. i respect your brightness, i'm sure you took a lot of heat for this but i hope that it starts a much needed conversation. on the left. angela nagel, i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> tucker: author and columnist mark steyn joins us. if you heard someone on the