essentially incorporated in a product by sitoshi nakamoto in 2008 and it's become the heart of the cryptocosm and all embellishments and elaborations of it are under way today, and it's the most exciting thing that's going on in the world economy. it's like a new internet, plus a new global financial system being incubated simultaneously today all around the world. mark: now this new financial system. you talk about things like bitcoin. what are these new financial systems? who's behind the financial system? >> well, today, of the existing financial system. a lot of people don't realize it, but it's essentially come to the end of the line. i wrote about it in the scandal of money.