different classes. so it's -- a republican congressman from ohio is probably going to be more accessible than a bay area congressman, even though they're very different politics. shut the border and let the engine of assimilation, integration, intermarriage work. and i think in 20 years, this is why i'm optimistic, long term very pessimistic we'd have this experience where if your name's cuomo or giuliani, we can't predict your affinities. short term, we've got to shut the border and get back to the melting pot and junk the salad bowl. mark: this issue of assimilation, i find that's where it's different. and that's what worries me 20, 30 years out. >> yeah. mark mark private institutions don't put a-- push one for english, two for spanish, that sort of thing. we have affirmative action plans in the government. they don't push assimilation. we have it at the state level too. but even more than that, we have