ideological and partisan things but it's weighed against the conflict with justice roberts, to keep the court's rather pure around this issue and the fact that our courts are supposed to be looking at the constitution and keeping their personal beliefs and ideologies out of it. what to make of this type of conflict, ladies? >> you want to look at a conflict, i think chief justice roberts has created a conflict within his own self, i would argue that because he's waited into this fight and gauged politically with president trump, he may have to recuse himself in the future if the russian collision investigation were to go all the way to the supreme court, if there is an obstruction of justice case. >> ebony: why would he need to recuse himself? justice roberts cited in favor of president trump's travel ban at the end of last turn. >> if you look at the democrats main critique, that he was too