about a judicial ruling it implicates politics by saying who appointed this person? reality is, you're hoping for an independent judiciary that is not wetted in political thought even if they have active political thought in their private lives, they're supposed to be judges. it is a fair comment and critique for all of us. >> dana: the president in his latest comment, he was talking about a 9th circuit decision that said he is wrong on his desire to change how somebody would request asylum in the country. that will continue to go through the court system. it might be overturned or it might not. >> right. look, totally understand the frustration the administration would have when it comes to dealing with the immigration issue. it's not like this is new that we have serious flaws with the statutory scheme or enforcement resources or the politics of it. but the frustration here to me doesn't appear all that well born out. there's a black letter piece of law in the statute that says it