am supposed to seek asylum in the first safe country i come to? >> my friend, we all know the united states is today the most powerful nation in the world. it is the dream of many, many people who are just trying to get out of dire poverty,os violence, to be able to reach the united states and to be a blessing, as they are the immigrants to this nation. t that's the dream. they are coming to the united states, and they are seeking asylum. they are not invading. and it's such a small number. we are talking about 10,000, 12,000 total. >> mark: wait a minute --is you are now saying that a dream is a basis for asylum. i might have a dream -- >> definitely. >> mark: i might have a dreamam to live in barbra streisand's house, it doesn't mean i have a right to move into her guest bedroom.m. >> if you are a block away from her home and you are being attacked and being raped andre your children, the only chance they have is to join a gang and