represents the interest of african-americans and millennials. if you look at the base that voted during this midterms that came out in droves, predominantly millennials and african-americans and so she was saying that the caucus, the democratic caucus does not represent the people that pulled it together. neil: and striking her comments, these were after meeting nancy pelosi. you think she would say yeah i'm reined in. she didn't sound like a reined in potential opponent. >> who, marcia fudge? >> yes. >> and i think they would vote for hakeem jeffreys, the co-chair. and i think he is a really, really good opponent to take against pelosi. neil: you don't think that nancy pelosi is going to succeed? >> i don't think that she has the votes. if you listen to what kat just said when you have that many people coming in and saying we