within there and they can exchange ideas, bringing more to the table. we've seen that on the right, as well, when the tea party movement tried to do that. the problem is, modern politics, you don't get credit for compromising. in business, they expect you to come together and work out a solution, everybody gives and everybody gets. you win some. you lose some. what is important is the out dollar the -- outcome. the art of the deal. i'm afraid in this political system now, that is something that will be held against you later, that you gave in on something in order to get something done and that is horrible for american people. >> so let's look at the case of yesterday afternoon, there is an example of what you are talking about that happened. president trump and va nn jones came together, i never thought i would see that happen as relates to prison reform. this is something i saw mike lee this morning on fox and on twitter praising. so i think yes, it seems dire