economy paired whether or not they can trip you down the road is a different conversation. we should be able to have this conversation regardless of our political affiliation had been to have a strong border, prevent some of these folks are coming across, and if we don't, shame on us as a country. >> tucker: i agree with that. i do think, as you just said, in many ways, this is an economic question. i don't understand how you can look at the projections for what automation is about to do to our economy, eliminating a huge percentage of low skilled labor in this country, and say we need more low skilled labor appeared how can you make that argument? >> you can't bear to the top ten jobs we see that immigrants tak take, jobs less than $20 an hour. even the obama ministers and said those are going to be automated. the argument for an increasing number of qualified folks who don't speak english, don't have a skill set we need for the