so the constitution said this subject to the jurisdiction of. the court, the supreme court has upheld that reading except for 1898 case in which they said permanent residents if they're born here get citizenship, but the supreme court has never clarified what about temporary visitors here on a tourist visa or those who are not here legally. the supreme court has not clarified that. neil: all right, let me be clear. the way it was interpreted at the time when they first came up with this you believe in 1866 after the civil war, people-- permanent rizs were automatically citizens something not afforded to slaves prior to that, but one of the things you argue that's interesting is that this is the way it's done in europe, right? that it's not by geographical origin, but by bloodline. what does that mean? >> so the most countries in the world, except for many of those in central and south america, no developed country except the united states and canada, all